
We ve posted numerous stories in recent years about airline staffers booting passengers from flights or having them detained after the plane lands for reasons that seem pretty petty. And here s the story of a Consumerist reader who says he wasn t even allowed on his plane because an American Airlines employee had issues with both of his passports, even though the TSA had no problems.
Jonathan s professor was with him at the AA counter and pulled out her own water-damaged passport to show that she was able to get her boarding pass. He says the American Airlines boss told the professor she should consider herself lucky she wasn t being pulled from the flight.
This is when Jonathan remembers that he has an Israeli passport back at home. Everyone seems to agree that this is acceptable, so he changes his flight to one later in the day and heads home to get the second passport.
But then I decided to get creative. vacation packages from canada I took my passports to the TSA office, found the head honcho and asked him if he would have any problem with letting me through, and onto my flight with either of my passports.
So I decide to bring him along with me to notify the AA GM that she is being incredibly unreasonable. Before he can even get a word out, she turns bright red and starts screaming at both of us. She threatens to call the cops on me, tells me that I should be thankful that she s protecting me and everyone else from terrorists by not letting me on the plane, she threatens to cancel my ticket, and to also charge vacation packages from canada me the difference for having to move to a later flight.
I hope Jonathan is also writing a nicely worded letter vacation packages from canada to American Airlines. They probably won t appreciate the bad press from Consumerist but I d still out the activist vacation packages from canada staffer to her corporate vacation packages from canada bosses.
Sure, but the beauty of security theater is that we re all actors vacation packages from canada upon this whole world of a stage. In this case, refusing a traveler with a perfectly good passport stops terr ists from getting vacation packages from canada on planes.
after yet another trip home and back to the airport, Matt was able to breeze through check-in and security without so much as a raised eyebrow. I suppose that manager with a hair up her ass had to go home eventually.
As good as AA normally is to me, and even though they technically have enough cash to operate vacation packages from canada for sometime, maybe we should consider establishing the AA Death Watch. or the Death-by-US-Airways watch.
If that s the case, makes sense that the airline would want to make sure you have a valid passport. I know everytime i ve flown internationally, at my point of origin, the airline is the one who s the most concerned about my passport.
While this could be a power trip , I m getting a vibe that someone is incredibly stressed out by her job, her personal life, or something. The emotional outburst seems uncharacteristic of someone vacation packages from canada who is simply laying down the law and doing her job (as she sees it).
Doesn t matter. One rule on every job I ve ever had was to leave outside stuff at home. So she s stressed out, take a personal day. Don t have a personal day? Call in sick. Can t do that? Tough tootsie, you re an adult and you need to act like an adult in a service industry.
If you show up in your destination country and are refused entry due to lack of a visa, invalid passport, whatever, it is the job of the airline to fly you home, at their own expense, on the next flight out of the country. They also must commonly pay a fine to the destination country.
1) If the passport is too mangled to electronically read, many immigration authorities (in a destination country) might well refuse to admit the traveler. The traveler vacation packages from canada doesn t get fined when this happens, the airline does. They must also transport you home on the next flight, vacation packages from canada bumping somebody else off of it if necessary.
vacation packages from canada 2) The TSA has nothing to do with it and their opinion on the matter is not relevant. Their job is to make sure you are who you say you are; they do not make judgements on if a passport is valid for travel in another country vacation packages from canada (nor do they do so for travelers entering the US, for that matter.)
That may well be (unreadable passport = fine for airline and return trip home,) but the whole You re not flying today .not with that passport attitude is, alone, unexcusable, and she should be fired for that alone. Granted, we only have the traveler s side of the story, but why couldn t the agent say, Sir, we can t let you fly with that plane because vacation packages from canada if your passport is unreadable, we ll get fined and you ll have to come back on the next flight vacation packages from canada anyway. However, I guess we ve all become so accustomed to horrible customer service from airlines that no one even notices, cares, or expects airline employees to be pleasant or reasonable anymore.
Best comment of all of them TSA can only make a determination on whether it can be used for passing security and boarding the flight, CBP makes the determination as to whether it s valid for reentry vacation packages from canada and each country can set its own rules for admission based on the passport and can reject you for any reason (machine readability would be likely high on that list).
Having been in and out of the UK a couple dozen times on a US passport, I can assure you that the UK Border Agency takes passport rules very seriously. vacation packages from canada I can t speak for the state of either passport, or which page/section the tear was on, but another poster was also right in saying that the airline could be fined and responsible for return to point of origin if the passenger was rejected by the Border Agency. I was almost vacation packages from canada rejected by Germany once on entry because I only had two valid blocks left in my passport, but the Dutch just stamped the exit on a page with six other stamps because there was space. YMMV. Broadly.
As it says in the passport itself, these things are important citizenship documents and should be treated as such. You can t blame the aviation industry if you and your dog don t feel the same way. I m just glad that I wasn t behind this person entering the UK.
Man, I would have made such a public scene and probably been arrested. Kudos to him for remaining calm. I hope Jonathan had a long talk with her superiors and they are now in the process of terminating her employment.
Many atheists vacation packages from canada who are of Jewish background vacation packages from canada still consider themselves to be Jews. To me being Jewish is just as much an ethnicity as it is a religion. Look up Humanistic Judaism . It is mostly about traditions, the history of our people, our community and families. I don t need to believe in Yahweh to consider myself a Jew.
One can be descended from the tribe of Judah (though, Levites and Benjamites can usually use the term, too) having never been in Israel just as someone can be African-American having only set foot on a single continent.
It became an ethnicity during the Holocaust. The Nazis weren t content with rounding up only those that didn t eat pork and celebrated Hanukkah, they were rounding up people who had Jews in their family tree regardless of their faith.
So, because Jew isn t a country, that means he doesn t have an ethnicity? So, in your world there s no such thing as Cherokees, Navajo, Inuit, Seminoles, Gypsies, Laplanders, Basques, Kurds, vacation packages from canada Punjabis, Sinhalese, Ainu, Uyghurs, Hmong, Tutsis, Hutu, or Bantu? None of those ethnic groups have countries either, so does that mean that they don t exist?
I used to have this argument with a Jewish friend of my mine all the time. I would argue that by and large Jewish is a race as well as a religon due to the low numbers of Jews and that most Jews won t marry non Jews which has created a realtivly small gene pool which when compared to the gene pools of current races is smaller than those races.
Was very confused by the headline. American vacation packages from canada Airlines Staffer Refuses To Let Me Fly Twice In One Day sounds like someone vacation packages from canada wasn t able to make a second flight in one day because they d flown previously.
I can understand why American was being a bit difficult: The issue is that once the passenger arrives at their destination and immigration officials decide that their passport/visa isn t sufficient and deny entry it is the airline s responsibility to remove the passenger from the country (not necessarily at their expense but its up to the Airline to recover from the passenger). Its pretty obvious why the airline would want to avoid this but some times they take it to an extreem: just because the MRZ (machine readable zone) won t scan right doesn t make the passport invalid.
This is very reasonable, even if the way the employee supposedly acted makes it seem less so. If the UK refused to admit him because of his damaged vacation packages from canada passport, guess who would be on the hook for getting him back to the US.
At *any* point AA may refuse to transport you for *any* reason. vacation packages from canada Yes, they must issue you a refund for this, but that is basically it. They don t owe you for the vacation time you missed, or the hotel reservation you can t make now.
Why? Because the legal document required to let him fly is damaged and the airline rightfully refused him access to the flight? He s the only one in the wrong here. If your document is damaged, get it replaced. Don t just try to fly on it and then become a dick when they say no. What exactly would you propose he put in the EECB?
Technically, legally , any American entering or leaving vacation packages from canada the United States must do so with their American passport. However that s a State Department rule, and since State doesn t check people out of the country when they leave (many countries do), it s nigh on impossible to enforce.
As others said, the only reason that airlines check passports on departure is to ensure that they don t have to carry them back to the US if they re refused entry elsewhere. The requirement to leave the US under a US passport for Americans would not apply in that case because they re arriving (in another country), not technically leaving the US anymore.
He was carrying his US passport (mangled as it was) and presumably would have presented it to a CBP officer if asked to (and techn
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