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Wow! What a surprise (to me anyway.) Especially interesting in that as long as the Philippines remains in Cat II status, nobody best maui dinner cruise most romantic can ADD anything to the U.S. yet here we see PR surrender one of their very few existing routes to this country.
best maui dinner cruise most romantic I wonder what the traffic was like on the Vegas route? Was it marginal, or were there other issues with the tag-on from YVR , or is it, as mentioned, somehow due to the confusing Canada-service changes coming soon?
With the raise of Macau and Singapore as major gaming destinations, gamblers in Asia are opting to go to there instead of Las Vegas. Macau has already supplanted Las Vegas as the number one gaming market and Singapore is poised to knock Las Vegas down to #3 very soon (and Singapore only has two casinos so that tells you the sort of numbers those two casinos are doing). best maui dinner cruise most romantic There will still be gamblers in Asia that go to Las Vegas, just not as often as they used to and will hit Macau or Singapore more (Similar to the decline Las Vegas saw in the late 70s when the casinos in Atlantic City siphoned a lot of East Coast visitors from Las Vegas.). I just don't see any Asian carrier coming into LAS unless the service is less than daily. Maybe JAL will return to LAS with the three time a week service they dropped several year ago. Perhaps ANA could offer service to LAS . I don't see SQ returning to LAS . (They briefly best maui dinner cruise most romantic offered a SIN - HKG - LAS service about 10 years ago that lasted 9 months due to poor ticket sales.).
I believe I have read something best maui dinner cruise most romantic about this a while ago. It was something to do with the bilateral (they can only sell 50 seats between YVR - LAS or something) and they wanted to change the aircraft to YVR to a 77W.
This would not involve the bilateral (as PR has contemplated best maui dinner cruise most romantic upgrading LAS to 77W service in order to provide a consistent product to YVR ), but rather Cat II . As long as the Philippines remains in Cat II , the A340 stays.
srbmod. You really need to check facts. The LAS service is not solely based on gambling. Are you aware of the massive Filipino community that lives in Vegas? Apparently not. As for the SQ service, best maui dinner cruise most romantic poor ticket sales was not the issue. The SARS outbreak was the primary issue and airlines dropped a lot of service. When things calmed down, a decision was made not to resume the service.
Flying LAS - YVR - MNL is a pain especially for a Filipino who is simply going home for leisure purposes- the trip is too long. That is, besides the fact that PR doesn't have a great reputation. And my understanding is that you also have to clear Canadian customs.
The best option best maui dinner cruise most romantic for most is HA : LAS - HNL - MNL since that involves only one stop instead of either flying through LAX and stopping again in either ICN or HKG . That is again, if avoiding PR as an airline.
Quoting displane ( Reply 10 ): Flying LAS - YVR - MNL is a pain especially for a Filipino who is simply going home for leisure purposes- the trip is too long. That is, besides the fact that PR doesn't have a great reputation. And my understanding is that you also have to clear Canadian customs.
best maui dinner cruise most romantic You don't have to clear Canadian customs if you're connecting to an international flight. You just have to show your passport before proceeding to the international departures area. And your baggage is checked through.
If you're best maui dinner cruise most romantic on the PR direct flight LAS - MNL I thought through passenges could just deplane and wait in the international in-transit area without any contact with Canadian authorities. And since PR doesn't use U.S. preclearance, you have no contact with that area in the other direction from MNL to LAS so it should work the same in both directions.
You also say LAS - MNL on PR is too long. But it's still faster by at least 1 or 2 hours than almost all connecting services. The only faster connection westbound I can find is HA LAS - HNL - MNL , and it's only about an hour faster. And eastbound, PR is almost 3 hours faster than the HA connection.
Certainly. More to the point, LAS traffic in the leisure market is about more than just gambling, although gambling is the largest part. As well, simply being 2nd or 3rd (assuming that's correct; my last visit to Singapore doesn't really jibe with that just yet...) best maui dinner cruise most romantic doesn't really have a bearing on that either. Yes, Macau, Singapore any other gambling market will require increased services as necessary, but as LAS begins its own recovery, I don't really think companies like ANA, JAL, et al will rule out LAS service just because they also serve Macau or Singapore.
PR has released its timetable for this winter and there seems to be an interesting development in discontinuing LAS . In ending flights to Las Vegas, PR will be offering a consistent product to Vancouver: MNL - YVR - MNL will be served best maui dinner cruise most romantic 11x weekly (4x MNL - YVR , 7x YVR - MNL ) with the 77W.
Quoting crownvic ( Reply 9 ): srbmod. You really need to check facts. best maui dinner cruise most romantic The LAS service is not solely best maui dinner cruise most romantic based on gambling. Are you aware of the massive Filipino community that lives in Vegas? Apparently not. As for the SQ service, poor ticket sales was not the issue. The SARS outbreak best maui dinner cruise most romantic was the primary issue and airlines dropped a lot of service. best maui dinner cruise most romantic When things calmed down, a decision was made not to resume the service.
I was referring to Asian service in general, and I'm aware that not everyone traveling to Vegas is there for the gambling as it is also major convention destination. SARS may have been a way for SQ to end the service gracefully, as many airlines also cut back service to Asia due to it and the decline in travel to Asia in the wake of the outbreak. Around best maui dinner cruise most romantic the time they ended the service, many airlines also cut service globally in the wake of the Iraq War. According to the following article, the LAS cut was originally supposed to be temporary and SARS was not mentioned:
Quoting Viscount724 ( Reply 15 ): Isn't that 7x weekly? 4 YVR - MNL turnaround flights and another 3 that operate MNL - YYZ - YVR - MNL and only serve YVR westbound. Total 7 flights weekly to/from Canada.
I counted them as individual flights and not as city pairs (so there are 11 flights a week to or from Vancouver: best maui dinner cruise most romantic four to YVR and seven from YVR ), as I'm not sure whether or not MNL - YYZ - YVR is bookable. However, total service to Canada is still once-daily in both directions: four flights to Vancouver, three to Toronto and seven going back from Canada, for a total of 14 flights, or daily service. Apologies if the message I was conveying came out incorrectly.
Quoting iflypal ( Reply 17 ): Las Vegas goes canned in lieu of Toronto-- they should have routed it through Seoul or Kansai on westbound where the Phlippines enjoys fifth freedom rights best maui dinner cruise most romantic and kept 343 going.
MNL - ICN - YYZ is sure to attract the competition of KE and AC , which PAL cannot compete with. While MNL - KIX - YYZ is doable, Philippine carriers are currently restricted from expanding in Japan due to, you guessed it, Cat II : in fact, expansion plans for Japan were derailed after Japan refused to give additional flight entitlements until the Philippines' SSC is addressed.
I wonder if PAL intends to restore the non-stop MNL - DEL service at some point in the future now that it has freed up aircraft. We might have to wait though for when the first new aircraft enter the fleet next year: more planes might mean more service.
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Viscount724 is correct. When I flew YVR - LAS on PR in July (see the link to my trip report above), MNL - LAS passengers were allowed to wait in the hold room at YVR while the aircraft was serviced. The doors to the hold room were closed best maui dinner cruise most romantic while these passengers were inside it, and passengers originating best maui dinner cruise most romantic in YVR were not allowed into the hold room until through passengers had re boarded.
You also say LAS - MNL on PR is too long. But it's still faster by at least 1 or 2 hours than almost best maui dinner cruise most romantic all connecting services. The only faster connection westbound I can find is HA LAS - HNL - MNL , and it's only about an hour faster. And eastbound, PR is almost 3 hours faster than the HA connection.
Quoting best maui dinner cruise most romantic Viscount724 ( Reply 11 ): You also say LAS - MNL on PR is too long. But it's still faster by at least 1 or 2 hours than almost all connecting services. The only faster connection westbound I can find is HA LAS - HNL - MNL , and it's only about an hour faster. And eastbound, PR is almost 3 hours faster than the HA connection.
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