Sunday, February 17, 2013

Yet another ill-informed comment by someone who has no clue that professors kids enroll in the same




Judge Emil Giordano said there was no breach of contract or discrimination against former student Megan Thode in assigning the grade. Thode, the daughter of Lehigh associate professor Stephen Thode, was attending the university tuition-free in 2009 when she received a C-plus in her master's fieldwork class.
Lawsuit documents said Thode maintained a B-plus on all written documents, but her instructor, tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy Amanda Carr, gave her a zero in class participation and consequently dropped her grade to a C-plus. The grade prevented her from advancing to the next course required for her degree, although she has since graduated tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy from another program and has a job.
Thode s lawsuit said the professor deprived her of her dream of becoming a licensed professional counselor, and the potential earnings. The lawsuit said Carr retaliated against the student because Thode advocated for same-sex marriage.
After four days of testimony, tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy Giordano declared that Thode failed to provide sufficient evidence to prove the grade was related to anything but academic performance. He also said Thode failed to present evidence proving that Lehigh, Carr or Ladany engaged in any discriminatory acts toward her.
Thode isn t the first student to sue a school over a grade. In 2007, a University of Massachusetts Amherst student sued in federal court when he received a C, and in 2012, two students at Texas Southern University s Thurgood Marshall School of Law sued because they received Ds. Both cases were dismissed by judges.
Gary Sasso, the dean of Lehigh University s College tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy of Education, said university officials were pleased with the judge's decision to uphold the faculty's responsibility to evaluate the work of their students.
Yet another ill-informed comment by someone who has no clue that professors kids enroll in the same college tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy all the time - stop trying to make children of faculty members sound like spoiled little rich kids.
OMEN, you are a bit too sensitive. Most college prof kids go to school, attend class, tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy work hard and do well. They don t go crying to the county court system, boo-hooing because they didn t get the grade they wanted. This student shouldn t have been surprised that class participation - vigorous and insightful - is expected in grad school. Kudos to the judge.
0% likely reflects lack of preparation for class, unproffessional masnnners, and lack of intellectual content in discussion. At ggrad school, merely showing up does not help your grad- participation expectations are much higher.
I sure wouldn t want her giving me advice. Whether she worked tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy hard or not is immaterial; she wasn t suited for this line of work. Good thing she gave her instructor an out by not completing all the coursework and being a general flake.
Another article about this case stated that a large component of this course was a mandatory internship that she did not complete. Anything above a zero would have been unethical on the instructor s part.
will verify this. I would love to speak with her if you could convey that . A current student at Rutgers told me today that certain professors are curving grades so that if you are one of the unlucky 20% YOU MIGHT GET A D EVEN THOUGH YOU REALLY DESERVED A HIGHER GRADE. If you do not believe this ask students at Rutgers. There is no way that I would ever do that to a student. That is why I NO LONGER TEACH THERE.
Unlike most academic pursuits, health care majors, including Counseling, is designed first to HELP and PROTECT the public, and second to enable higher tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy income for the student. Nurses, Doctors, Counselors, Airline Pilots not only have to KNOW their material but they have to DO their work correctly and skillfully. You do not want to be on the receiving end of a clumsy doctor or airline pilot, likewise nobody want a counselor that makes their problems worse instead of better.
In most academic pursuits reading the assignments and passing a multiple choice exam is all it takes to advance, tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy and the teachers are there to assist in this process, tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy the teachers will also give emphasis and additional information. In health care majors the professors have to evaluate if the student will DO their work correctly and skillfully. I know that Med School is famous for attrition, I am sure that Counseling programs also have attrition.
The main issue here is the ability of the professor of the Teaching Assistant to grade you based on something entirely subjective, like in-class participation . It is absurd that it counts for an entire letter grade. What if you are shy and quiet, barely able to attend class due to overwhelming social tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy anxiety, but manage to get high 80s on every test and paper? Should you be subjected to a harsh review by the grader and thus get a much lower grade? What if you raise your hand and say ridiculous things, tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy are you then participating ? It s much too subjective and needs review.
tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy She was studying for a degree to be a professional councilor! You can t be shy and complete that type of job successfully! Besides, participation at the post-grad level isn t as subjective as you might think. If you are unable to hold intelligent conversation about your studies, tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy you shouldn t be pursuing an advanced degree.
Well put Missy. In this particular case, being shy wasn t the issue at hand. Her issue was just the opposite. Her participation was seen as being inappropriate (off topic, use of language, etc...) and the class was continually disrupted by her emotional outbursts. She also apparently ignored tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy multiple warnings. If she had been treated unfairly, she should have been able to provide adequate evidence along with witnesses (she wasn t the only student in the class).
There is already too much accommodation for people in academics. The value of college degrees has been marginalized because everyone deserves to go to college . Even if you agree to that, it does not mean they deserve to get any degree they want without meeting the same requirements others in the same field MUST meet.
Showing up, counts in large part to class participation. You have to actually be in class the entire session. My father, my uncle, my husband and about a dozen friends are all Professors, and almost all require you to show up . They recognize that some are shy, have social anxiety issues, etc. which is why class participation only counts for a part of the total grade. If class participation is 10% or more, that s a whole letter tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy grade at least! Now, as stated, I know many professors and all lay out their expectations in exacting detail, tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy in their syllabus. So if you get a zero in class participation, at the graduate level, YOU EARNED IT!!
I am that kind of person, and I got that kind of degree and I ll tell you what you do: You suck it up and do the same that s required of everyone else. If I have issues with things I understand tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy they re MY issues, not everyone else s to deal with. You get some therapy, you get some meds, and you get some courage. A disability isn t a free pass to an easy ride, its a reminder that if you want to hang with the rest of the crowd you re going to have to work a little harder.
It is GRAD school. I m shy works when you are seventeen and new to academia. By grad school, which is comprised of SEMINARS and FIELDWORK, you should be ready to actively and constructively participate in a positive fashion. No sympathy, here.
I have attended both bricks and mortar and online universities. The bricks and mortar schools were especially poor at creating fair and equitable education. The bricks and mortar institutions I attended didn t have rubrics. For those new to the concept a rubric can be very generic in nature but is often quite specific. The rubric spells out precisely what is expected in terms of the content, quality and quantity of participation in a given academic activity. I found that at least one fairly ivy league institution allowed its professors to give very little attention to a grading rubric in their course syllabus. In other words whatever that professor deemed participation was considered participation. Some institutions who judge their faculty on time in the position rather than on the quality of their instruction don t insist tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy on stringent rubrics. A stringent rubric means that a professor tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy who happens to be particularly tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy bias against a student tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy can t stick it to them just because... They must adhere to either what they agreed upon as a rubric or what a department agreed upon as a rubric. In my online tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy courses the rubric tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy was very stringent. The level of participation was specified the number of postings, the quality of the posting, the foci but picky things like grammar and citations were given considerable weight but not so much so that the professor could base your entire tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy grade on those alone. The focus was on the discussion topics tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy and whether you did your research and could express yourself with a scholarly voice. Could you focus the academic lens on the given topic and employ scholarly literature to support your point of view? If the answer was yes, then you did well, if the answer was no, you didn t. Sadly that s not true in many bricks and mortar schools where the professor is given a great deal of latitude at the graduate level. I ve known people that couldn t graduate because they and their faculty chairs or department didn t see eye to eye . This seems terribly petty but consider this: you may only have one to three people in your whole department who are even interested in your area of academic interest. There may be only one who is truly qualified tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy to make judgements about what you write or think. Scholarly communities tropical usa rent a car bankruptcy are very small, very elite. As one professor put it, we have the keys to the club and if you want to get in you have to do what we tell you. Judges may or may not understand the petty environment that is academia. The public at large certainly doesn t understand the complex and sometimes bizarre world of post-secondary education. Add in the divided focus between research and androgy on

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